Lionel Duckwitz lgducky@aol.com |
7-21-2009 05:55 AM |
| Im proposing a option of 3yr renewal for 40 bucks, a single year is 20. If this works it will increase renewal rate from 25 % upward reduce annually mail out and be a win win for us and membership. Duck |
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Dave ddiam@visuallink.com |
7-22-2009 04:20 AM |
| I think Lee's idea has merit. I doubt that any of the government agencies will take up the offer, but some individual payers may. Either way, we've got nothing to lose by implementing the plan. And we may pick up a few bucks we wouldn't otherwise get. |
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Dave ddiam@visuallink.com |
7-22-2009 04:24 AM |
| Consider my previous comment a second. |
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J.D. jd.mitchell@loudoun.gov |
7-22-2009 06:36 AM |
If we do something like this what happens to us fund wise in the third year? Let's say a bunch of people decide to do this, not that we are raking in a boat load of money from dues to start with but, we would need to make sure that we figure some way to ration the incoming funds otherwise we may find ourselves in year 3 scratching our heads.
How about we offer a 3 year renewal at $45? That would be $5 off a year if you take this deal.
Also keep in mind Section 3-2 of our bylaws states;
(a.) There shall be a membership fee of thirty dollars ( $30.00 ) and an annual dues of twenty dollars ($20.00 ). The membership fee shall include the annual dues for the first year.
(b.) Dues shall be due on July 1st of each calendar year. For new members coming into the Association in the last six month of the dues year ( January - June ), the membership fee shall also cover the following full year’s dues.
(c.) Any member not paying their dues for a period of more that one ( 1 ) year shall be reported by the Secretary to the Board of Directors for dismissal from membership of the Association.
Any reduction or change in dues may require a bylaws change.
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James JBarber@Albemarle.org |
7-28-2009 11:07 AM |
| I like J.D.'s suggestion and reasoning. |
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WDSeay sea09@co.henrico.va.us |
7-28-2009 12:10 PM |
| I also agree with JD's comments. If the By-Laws specifically state something, we must follow it until properly changed. If we set a goal to bring in X number of new members per year (maybe a % of membership) we could offset the cost to offer the reduced dues since new members pay $30. Likewise, we will have those funds in the bank for a while if we remember and don't spend it up....increase revenues and decrease costs where we can.... |
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Albert Newberry dir_newberry@wytheville.org |
7-28-2009 1:03 PM |
| It appers to be a good idea and I would take advantage of it just so I would hove one less thing to take care of each year. I will just offer a few ideas here. Is this fair to all those who can only pay a year at a time they are penalized for this? Will this get us more member or just more money up front. Where will we be with this two more presidents in the future will this action ham string a new board some way. Food for thougth |
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Duckwitz lgducky@aol.com |
7-28-2009 3:30 PM |
| The 5 bucks is a mute issue with me. This is tough times requiring reduction and advantage for renewal. Remember 75% are not renewing. we need only 8% more to renew on the 3 yr deal to start showing a success story here also the bylaws are too strict not accounting for inflation or deflation.OK let me add if you can easy modify by laws to fit this. We've failed with present process of renewal so think outside your box. Duck |
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Robby Dawson dawsonj@chesterfield.gov |
7-28-2009 6:05 PM |
I think the issue of a by-laws change needs to be addressed. There is nothing there about a multi year membership, and the price is fixed.
Also, how about just a 2 year membership? As a manager in the office, I don't know if I can justify paying for three years for a guy if he may get transfered back to the dark side, but I could buy into 2 years.
Based on the by-laws, I would have to say no, but I like the idea.
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phil ppaquette@co.goochland.va.us |
7-30-2009 07:59 AM |
| Thanks to all of those replying. I saw what everybody was saying, and of course we'll follow the by-laws. We needed to get a discussion moving about this and can address it with a by-laws change. It may be a change that allows the BOD the flexibility to make adjustments or whatever the right wording is (Dave that's your part) for the best interest of the association. I agree 3 years may not work but if we get folks renewing for 2 years with a discount, we're still ahead of the game. The majority of expenses are covered by school income and not solely by dues. $30 for 2 years may be a benefit to our members and would probably be appreciated as well. |
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Duck lgducky@aol.com |
7-30-2009 3:05 PM |
| Can everybody live with a trial period one time at the three yr renewal and evaluate the results for modification after that. I'm trying to have two effects here, reduce work for us and motivation for renewing with a deal for renewing. We can offer transfer of remaining membership here in one yr increments if you like. Duck. |
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Robby Dawson dawsonj@chesterfield.gov |
7-31-2009 06:21 AM |
| I think a trial period would be fine. A by-laws change is still needed. How about changing the by-laws to say something like the board will establish the dues with a 2/3 vote? |
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Duck Lgducky@aol.com |
7-31-2009 11:47 AM |
| Ok robby last statement should do it 2/3 is ok with me also with this first time a trial period Duck |
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phil ppaquette@co.goochland.va.us |
7-31-2009 2:03 PM |
I still like the 2 year trial better but will accept a motion to start things going.
The biggest problem I see is that we don't have many BOD members responding. I'm not so sure they just can't get to the site. We may need to take this out to the board via regular email for discussion and bring it up at the September board meeting. that doesn't help us with the dues notice ready to go out though. |
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Daniel daniel.rakes@roanokeva.gov |
8-2-2009 3:33 PM |
I vote to try this. I don't think we will get many takers on the government side due to budgets. I will have a hard time getting approval to pay for dues two or three years out from current budget.
I do agree with idea and feel we need to deal with by-laws issue. |
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jd jd.mitchell@loudoun.gov |
8-3-2009 06:53 AM |
| I'm OK with giving it a try. I would also support the bylaw change that leaves dues more open ended giving the board more flexibility when the economy is causing everyone trouble. |
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